Thursday, October 28, 2010

350,000 ATV Users Each Year

Here is a list of the top 10 most popular dunes published by ATV Sport....
The Oregon Dunes (ODNRA) is second only to Glamis!!....

350,000 ATV users frequent from Florence south to North Bend area EACH YEAR!!....get out your calculators and project the $$$$ brought into these communities by riders.....we NEED the Coos Bay/North Bend, Winchester Bay/Reedsport and Florence Chamber of Commerces to network together and fight to keep these numbers coming back year after year......the Forest Service may be thrusting a dagger into these communities revenues and your riding rights should you not get involved in public comment prior to their 10-C determination in Sept. 2011....STRD

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1. Imperial Sand Dunes (Glamis): California 
2. Oregon Dunes 
3. St. Anthony Dunes: Idaho 
4. Killpecker Dunes: Wyoming
5. Coral Pink Dunes: Utah 
6. Oceano Dunes (Pismo
7. Dumont Dunes: California 
8. 8. Little Sahara: Utah 
9. Little Sahara: Oklahoma 
10. Silver Lake Sand Dunes: Michigan

Being from the Midwest, it’s a treat for us to spit up roost, carve bowls and spend a week racing up dune faces. It’s become a staff tradition to retreat to the Imperial Sand Dunes each year for days of hammering through the Glamis sand. It’s also become an addiction. 

Sand riding provides a freedom that can’t be explained properly until you experience it for yourself. There’s not one specific way to ride in the dunes. For some, it’s drag racing up steep dune faces testing horsepower. Others make mini motocross courses or long cross-country rides around desert scrub. And that’s what makes dune riding so addictive. It’s pretty much whatever you want it to be. 

For those of you in the East, it will take a long road trip to Oklahoma or the western portion of the country to experience the dunes. Midwest and West riders are luckier, however, as there are several riding areas within a reasonable distance. With the sand riding season fast approaching, scour our top 10 duning list and feed the addiction. 

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1. Imperial Sand Dunes (Glamis): California 
You probably aren’t shocked by the No. 1 ranking for the Imperial Sand Dunes, located near Brawley, Calif. There are more than 118,000 acres open to recreation, roughly two-thirds of the Imperial Sand Dunes. The dunes extend about 40 miles and are 5 miles wide in most places. Many visitors will choose to stage near Mammoth Wash on the north end, Gecko Campground south of Highway 78 or Buttercup near the Mexican border and south of Highway 8. 
During the summer, Glamis becomes a scorcher and temperatures frequently hit 110 degrees. Traditionally, the riding season begins in October and runs through mid-April before it gets too hot to ride. Halloween and Thanksgiving are big holidays at Glamis and more than 100,000 people visit the dunes. If you don’t like crowds and you want smooth dunes, try scheduling your trip in the middle of the week and avoid those two weekends. 

2. Oregon Dunes 
More than 350,000 ATV users descend upon the Oregon Dunes of Coos Bay, Winchester Bay and Florence each year. For those of you looking for the tallest dunes here, check out Winchester Bay. Each year Dune Fest, a fun five-day event, takes place at Winchester and becomes the heart of the dunes. Many of the dunes ride up and through the forest at Winchester. 
Coos Bay is the largest, most expansive section of the Oregon Dunes and beach riding is allowed. Bull Run is the closest area to the ocean and several fingers of dunes provide entertainment. Riders will find the tallest dunes on the eastern inland section. Florence is situated at the northern end of the Oregon Dunes and is the smallest riding area of the three. If you want to show off your ATV’s horsepower, check out South Jetty Hill. Most of the eastern portion of Florence has been closed due to noise complaints. To that end, a 93 dB limit is in place for all three of the Oregon Dunes riding areas. 

3. St. Anthony Dunes: Idaho 
Located just outside of Idaho Falls in eastern Idaho, the St. Anthony Dunes take our final podium spot for their unique white quartz sand and phenomenal summer riding opportunities. When other duning areas are too hot to ride, St. Anthony remains very bearable in the heat of the summer. With approximately 10,600 acres of sand to play in, there is ample variety. The dunes move nearly 8 feet each year and reach 200 to 300 feet tall. Like Utah’s Little Sahara, St. Anthony is situated at 5,000 feet above sea level. 
Choke Cherry Hill is a nearly vertical dune and rises more than 200 feet. It takes a good run to make it to the top and truly tests your will. Another must is touring the massive Devil’s Dune bowl on the West end of the park. There are three main camping areas with two offering primitive camping. Sand Hills Resort is the best and has power and water hook-ups, but it is a long ride from the best dunning opportunities. 

4. Killpecker Dunes: Wyoming 
The Killpecker Sand Dunes consist of 10,500 acres of ridable area — the sand dunes area encompasses nearly 38,000 acres. ATV riders are restricted to the eastern portion, where unstable sand dunes make for fun riding. The Killpecker Dunes, located north of Rock Springs, Wy., might just be our top 10’s best-kept secret as its one of the least-visited in this list. 
The peaks at Killpecker are sharp and provide good lift for jumping. Scout first because the backside of many Killpecker dunes are steep and small water puddles form throughout the area. At 8,000 feet above sea level, expect to loose about 3 hp per 1,000 feet, which makes climbing the largest dunes more challenging. Proper jetting is the key. Be on the lookout for oil pipes, as they run throughout the dunes. 

5. Coral Pink Dunes: Utah 
This may not be America’s top sand riding locale, but it’s certainly one of the most eye-catching duning areas in our top 10. Coral Pink’s tall hillclimbs, 6,000 feet of elevation, tree-lined bowls and miles of sand make this 3,000-acre north-to-south rectangle sand playlot one of our favorites. 
Riders will find the most challenging dunes on the north end of the park where several steep razorbacks test your moxy. The northeast is where the Coral Pink dunes surprise with pine trees that invade the sand hills. In the middle and east portion of the dunes sits long hill climbs where you can open up your machine. 

6. Oceano Dunes (Pismo): 
As host to the annual Pismo Beach race — part of the World Off Road Championship Series — the Oceano Dunes offer an experience second-to-none on California’s central coast. Some of the best experiences involve riding down the Pismo Beach with the Pacific Ocean at your side. Watch out for the high tide that can suck in camping trailers and ATVs, creating a sticky situation. 
Winds that blow in from the ocean create crests that run north and south and allow for some fun razorbacks to jump off. Watch out for slipfaces that are created from thin tongues of sand that tend to slide down on the leeward slopes. Riding conditions can get rough at Pismo’s 1,100-plus acres during weekends and peak summer riding, but the ocean views and vistas boost its ranking on our list. 

7. Dumont Dunes: California 
The Dumont Dunes are located about 30 miles north of Baker, Calif., and offer roughly 8,150 acres of dune riding. Dumont stretches to the east about 5 miles and is 1.5 miles long. Dumont is broken up into two main sections, Little Dumont and the main Dumont riding area where most OHV riders go. 
At an elevation ranging from 700 to 1,000 feet, Dumont features a few very large and steep razorbacks to try and conquer along with many fun bowls. A lot of the action circulates around Comp Hill, a huge half-moon hill of sand that many drag racers have competed on. If you don’t like crowds, visit during the weekdays or hit up Little Dumont where smaller dunes provide plenty of entertainment. A $30 fee is required for a seven-day pass.

8. Little Sahara: Utah 
Little Sahara is located in the Great Basin tucked in the Servier Desert of central Utah. At roughly 12 miles long north to south and 10 miles wide, there’s ample playing area. And, with 60,000 acres of dunes, flats and trails, there’s enough variety to warrant coming back for more. 
The main feature at Little Sahara, at an elevation more than 5,000 feet, is Sand Mountain. Towering 650-plus feet high, Sand Mountain tests your machine’s power as you climb to the top. On the north end of the dunes, White Sands provides large bowls for carving and jumping. Beginners will gravitate toward Black Mountain on the southwest end for smaller dune faces and more desert terrain. If trail riding is your forte, check out Black Mountain’s expansive network of trails. For those of you who like crowds, Easter weekend is big at Little Sahara. 

9. Little Sahara: Oklahoma 
It may not be the largest dune riding area in this list at 1,450 acres, but its location and variety puts it in the top 10. Located near Waynoka, Okla., northwest of Oklahoma City, Little Sahara is the closest duning escape for Midwest and 
East riders. 
This sand palace has a little bit of everything. If you are a drag racer, don’t miss out on Sand Fest each year. There are many dune faces to climb, rolling and medium-sized hills along with miles of sandy trails. The middle of Little Sahara collects water during heavy rains and can become a soft quick sand pit. For the climbers, check out Competition or Buttercup Hill. If you get lost, don’t worry, the entire park is surrounded by a fence. 

10. Silver Lake Sand Dunes: Michigan 
Eeking out our 10th spot ahead of New Mexico’s Mescalero Sands and Utah’s Sand Hollow is Silver Lake Sand Dunes in Michigan. The Silver Lake dunes are open April through the end of October from 8 a.m. to 10 p.m. Get here early Friday if you plan on riding over the weekend. The DNR has initiated a voucher system to allow up to 2,200 OHVs per day. 
Though small in rideable area, there are many large hills to shoot up and race your buddies. With Lake Michigan to the West, many riders flat drag down the beach. The crowds are manageable thanks to the system the DNR put in place but, if you really want to experience the area without much company, arrive early in the week.

Tuesday, October 19, 2010

Email to STRD by the BlueRibbon Coalition

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Dust: The next endangered species
Dust cuts Colorado River flow, scientists sayhttp://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/21/science/la-sci-colorado-river-dust-20100921
Windborne Dust on High Peaks Dampens Colorado River Runoffhttp://nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=117668&org=NSF&from=news
A few years back, a study on sediment in some of Colorado's high mountain lakes was published. Apparently, a group of scientists noticed that lots of dust gets blown across the vast expanse of the Western US, some of which is deposited in snowpack and lakes once it hits the mountains of Colorado.
I briefly reviewed the study about a year ago. It was fascinating, actually. If I'm understanding correctly, these high mountain lakes contain dust from as far away as Mexico, and some of the sediment strata are hundreds of thousands of years old. 
As BRC members in Arizona know all too well, dust is the latest "endangered species" hope of the radical environmental group. Dust will be another tool to "re-wild" vast areas of the US. We're already seeing dust as a pillar in some of the greenie lawsuits.
The study's findings were anything but conclusive, insofar as if humans have increased the dust sediment in the lakes, or if there has been an increase since European settlement. But that won't stop the greenies from using it to ban any kind of activity they don't deem appropriate.
I'm thinking they ought to change the term "best available science" to "best available assumptions." The scientists don't really know. Or, perhaps I should say; the science doesn't quite jibe with what the scientists think they know. 

National:Conservation groups want more snowmobile regulations http://www.powersportsbusiness.com/output.cfm?ID=2653237

New Jersey:N.J. hits hurdle in curbing illegal ATV use
Sunday, October 17, 2010
http://www.northjersey.com/news/105123849_ATVs__nature_collide.html
And...Illegal use of all-terrain vehicles in N.J. remains a problemhttp://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/illegal_use_of_all-terrain_veh.html

Pennsylvania:Northumberland News...
Off-road tour provides preview for vehicle park in Coal Twp.
http://republicanherald.com/news/off-road-tour-provides-preview-for-vehicle-park-in-coal-twp-1.1050365
[OHV] Park seen as 'economic engine'http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/yb/151132332

Arizona:Supervisors to discuss trail closureshttp://www.havasunews.com/articles/2010/10/18/news/doc4cbbd7ff49dbe089267155.txt
Public opposes closing BLM land to four-wheelershttp://www.mohavedailynews.com/articles/2010/10/17/news/local/doc4cbbd06d2b8e9720392875.txt
Supes side with off-road groupshttp://www.havasunews.com/articles/2010/10/19/news/doc4cbd289614e88543616771.txt
How you can help:BRC Alert: ARIZONA BLM TRAVEL MANAGEMENT PLANNING COMMENT DEADLINE IS OCTOBER 31, 2010http://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/?alert=1250
Meanwhile...Off-highway patrol
Agencies team up to enforce ordinance at Nature Center
http://www.mohavedailynews.com/articles/2010/10/17/news/local/doc4cbaa1b272770596422479.txt

Colorado:Still more opposition to wilderness...District opposes '09 wilderness act billhttp://www.themountainmail.com/main.asp?SectionID=4&SubSectionID=4&ArticleID=20568
Donation Made To Improve Public Lands
Will Help Outdoor Enthusiasts And The Environment
http://www.kjct8.com/news/25292908/detail.html
Red Cliff wary of forest plan
Proposal could ban unlicensed ATVs on some roads near Camp Hale
http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20101011/NEWS/101019983/1078&ParentProfile=1062

Montana:Montana Wilderness Association names new directorhttp://helenair.com/news/article_95dd4702-d1d6-11df-9788-001cc4c03286.html
Wilderness groups hail bull trout protectionshttp://helenair.com/news/local/article_fb70fad0-d68d-11df-b370-001cc4c03286.html

Washington State:Big snowmobile bash coming to Josephhttp://www.wallowacountychieftain.info/main.asp?SectionID=9&SubSectionID=61&ArticleID=22429
Wallowa-Whitman forest becoming battleground for off-road-vehicle limits www.oregonlive.com/wallow-whitman_forest_becoming_battleground_for_off-road-vehicle_limits.html

Michigan:ORV ordinance being prepared for West Branch http://www.ogemawherald.com/detail/86947.html
andBridge project will put a crimp in ORV, snowmobile trails in Clare, Roscommon countieshttp://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2010/10/bridge_project_will_put_a_crim.html

California:Brad Thompson writes an excellent oped in the Tahoe Daily TribuneGUEST COLUMN: Reopen area to snowmobileshttp://www.tahoedailytribune.com/article/20101009/NEWS/101009763/1059&parentprofile=1059

Utah:Concern grows over Forest Service road closureshttp://www.sjrnews.com/Concern-grows-over-Forest-Service-road-closures

Idaho/Nevada:Group asks for extra time to digest Jarbidge planhttp://www.magicvalley.com/news/local/twin-falls/article_c304e53b-fffe-570a-934d-411476e02151.html

Virginia:The news-clip below concerns new plans on the George Washington & Jefferson National Forests.
Here is a thought for the day....
Do suppose George Washington and Tom Jefferson are rolling in their graves over having a National Forest named after them?

Proposals for national forest draw questions http://www2.newsvirginian.com/news/2010/oct/06/proposals-national-forest-draw-questions-ar-544817/

Bonus:The headline in the news-clip below caught my eye. After a quick scan, I think we may have found something that fits the bill for the Obama Administration's America's Great Outdoor Initiatives. See, the initiative is supposed to get Americans recreating outdoors, improve wildlife habitat and fix global warming. The news-clip below would indicate the President could meet his goals on recreation, wildlife and CO2 emissions by building a bunch of new nuclear power plants!
Clear cutting of timber on game lands makes for good huntinghttp://www.garnernews.net/Clear-cutting-of-timber-on-game-lands-makes-for-good-hunting




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Saturday, September 18, 2010

Summary of 10-C Public Comments


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Summary of Public Comments Received

Public comment during the process occurred through three primary mechanisms.  First, each meeting of the Working Group included a specific time block for public comment.  During this time block, individuals were invited to provide their input in the order in which they had signed-in as they arrived during the day.  Second, numerous e-mails were received from interested public throughout the process.  Third, a number of letters and copies of e-mails were submitted at the public meetings, either in lieu of, or in addition to oral comments.
What follows is a summary of the comments received during the process and the general sentiments expressed through those comments.  More detailed summaries of comments received during the public comment periods at Working Group meetings can be found in the individual meeting notes for those meetings.  Meeting notes are available through the Siuslaw National Forest web site at the following location… http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/siuslaw/projects/rec-plans-projects/dunes-routes/index.shtml
 Copies of all written and e-mail input received are filed at the Siuslaw National Forest Supervisor’s office in Corvallis.  Information on these materials is available from Frank Davis, Siuslaw National Forest Planner.

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Public Comment at Working Group meetings


Saturday, October 3, Florence – Two individuals provided comments at the meeting.  Both expressed their concern about the potential for further restrictions on OHV use on the NRA, and their support for continued access to the NRA for OHV users.

Saturday, November 7, Winchester Bay – Five individuals provided comments at the meeting.  One person expressed concerns about OHV trail impacts on Matsutake mushroom habitat areas, and emphasized the need to protect those areas.  Four individuals expressed their concerns about further restrictions on OHV use on the NRA, and their support for continued OHV access.  They also emphasized the economic benefits of OHV use to local communities.

Saturday, January 23, Honeyman State Park – Nine individuals provided comments at the meeting.  All expressed their concerns about further restrictions on OHV use on the NRA, and their support for continued OHV access.  They emphasized the economic benefit of OHV use to local communities.  They also commented on concerns about overcrowding and safety issues as OHV use increases and available areas decrease.

Saturday, April 17, North Bend – Fourteen individuals provided comments at the meeting.  All expressed their concerns about further restrictions on OHV use on the NRA, and their support for continued OHV access.  They emphasized the economic benefits of OHV use to local communities.  Several also shared their concerns about the recent OHV closure implemented in the area around Beal Lake in the south riding area.  One piece of written input was submitted by a local landowner, in addition to the oral comments received.

Saturday, June 5, North Bend – Eleven individuals provided comments at the meeting.  Nine individuals expressed their concerns about further restrictions on OHV use on the NRA, and their support for continued OHV access.  They emphasized the economic benefits of OHV use to local communities.  They also shared concerns about the extent to which areas of the NRA that were once open sand, are becoming covered with vegetation, primarily European beach grass.  One individual expressed concerns about the impact of OHV noise on local residents in the Hauser area.  One individual shared information on noise monitoring and enforcement efforts.  Fourteen pieces of written input were submitted (copies of e-mails), all in support of continued OHV use and riding opportunities on the NRA.

Saturday, June 26, Florence - Fifteen individuals provided comments at the meeting.  Four individuals expressed their concerns about noise impacts on local residents from OHV use on the NRA, and expressed their support for stronger enforcement of existing rules.  Two individuals expressed concerns about the lack of camping facilities in the area, and the potential loss of tourist income to local communities.  Nine individuals expressed their concerns about further restrictions on OHV use on the NRA, and their support for continued OHV access
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Saturday, September 11, North Bend – (to be completed)

Saturday, October 16, Florence – (to be completed)

Letters and E-Mails Received



Through September 6, 2010, 46 e-mails were received providing specific comments about OHV use and related issues on the NRA.  A number of additional e-mails were received requesting information on upcoming meetings and/or the Working Group process, but providing no specific input or comments.

  Of the 46 e-mails received, 29 came from individual OHV users that were forwarded through an organization called Save The Riders Dunes (STRD).  Input from STRD “members” generally emphasized their experiences riding on the NRA and the importance of this activity to families.  They expressed concerns about further restricting the area available to OHV use, and related impacts on rider safety (due to overcrowding) and impacts on local economies (due to reduced use).  STRD “members” support continued access to the NRA for OHV use, and oppose any further restrictions on the area available to OHV users.  (Note:  Printed copies of most of the STRD e-mails were also submitted at the June 5 and June 26 Working Group meetings).

 Several additional e-mails were received from OHV users of the NRA, expressing their support for continued access and OHV riding opportunities, and their opposition to further restrictions on OHV use in the NRA.  12 e-mails were received from adjacent landowners and residents of the Florence area, expressing their concerns about noise impacts from OHV use on the NRA, and also concerns about trespass and damage to private properties.  Several e-mails were received from individuals concerned about opening up areas of the NRA currently closed to OHV use, and allowing OHV use in those areas.  They expressed concerns about the potential impacts to non-OHV users in these areas.
Two additional pieces of written input were submitted at Working Group meetings.  One came from an adjacent landowner, and expressed support for the designation of OHV user trails in the NRA, including trails that connect to their property.  Another letter came from a local resident of the Florence area, and expressed concerns about federal lands being sold into private ownership, and not being available to the people of the United States.

Friday, September 10, 2010

Kurstin

  Hi im Kurstin, Im 9 years old and I went to the dunes with my dad and brother, my mom couldn't make it but it was fun any way. We went swimming , shopping, and even roasted marshmallows, but the funnest part was riding my quad on the sand. Accidents happen but thats why are careful and  wear a helmet, gloves, boots, goggles, chestprotector and more. I dont like that people are trying to shut down the dunes. I love riding on the dunes , why cant we share?

Monday, July 5, 2010

Jean - Tillamook, Or

We got into the sport of dune riding as a means to take our 5 grandkids out and do something fun with them. And give them some real family stricter. These kids have learned safety, how to take care of and respect their own bikes, they thrive in the out of doors. Everyone should have a great family oriented hobby, if they did maybe a lot of these kids now a days would not be so messed up if their families took the time to do fun and interesting things with them. I grew up going to Florence and playing on the dunes, I have a lot of great memories from those trips.  

Dune riders put a lot of money into these towns. Think of the big and small business that this will hurt if there is no more dune riding allowed. This is just crazy to take away our rights to enjoy the land we pay taxes for.

J. Masterson
Tillamook, Oregon     

Wednesday, June 30, 2010

Richard - Florence, Or

TAXES, FEES, GRANOLA, AND GASOLINE                                                      June 26, 2010

As we all know it is expensive to be an ATV enthusiast.  We buy expensive machines and then we modify them.  We buy big rigs, trailers, RVs and modify them too. With that comes DMV fees, Federal, State, and local gas tax, off-road permits, etc.  Last I checked most people who hike, bike, kayak, etc. don’t have as much invested in their equipment with the exception of fisherman.  But that’s a whole other ballgame.

Most people who hike, bike, and kayak bring their own food, sleep in a tent and typically use established trails and campgrounds.  They don’t shop much or eat out much locally.  They don’t spend much period.  But there is more land set aside for that type of use.  They don’t want to be around the off-road community because of noise.  They also don’t like to hike on the sand because it’s too difficult for most people.  I’ve never seen a person biking in the dunes or on any of the trails in the Oregon Dunes Recreational Area.  With that said, I know for a fact that there are plenty of other established recreation areas that already exist up and down coast of Oregon for those activities.  We are only trying to keep and maintain our only recreational area on the coast that we pay an extremely high cost for in taxes and fees.

So as a US tax payer, I know that all of us who pay taxes don’t have any control of how, where, and when that money is being spent.  The only way we can be heard is to use our 1st amendment right and voice our rights as tax payers on how we want our money spent or used.

As far as the wildlife goes, I have experienced encounters with wildlife in my sand rail frequently which tells me that the wildlife is not affected and continues to live and coexist with off-road ATV noise and usage.  I understand the need for those who want to use the dunes for a peaceful experience, but there are plenty of other dune locations that can be used away from the ATV areas that already exist.  All we are asking for is to respectfully keep and maintain our only existing trails and riding areas.  I know it’s hard for those who don’t ride to understand our way of life or for that fact even care.  I think most people have an image of a beer drinking knuckle head person tearing it up and out of control with no respect for the environment.  Well, we all know that’s not true.  Most of us are spending time with our families enjoying the outdoors.  As I have said before, we are all here because of our passions.  We need to respect and understand one another’s views.  So please keep in mind that this is the only place on the whole Oregon coast that is perfect for the passion of those who love to ride on the trails and sand.

I would like everyone to reflect and think about this.  The off-road/ATV community is not asking for the area to only be used for off-road/ATV use only.  We are only asking to keep what we already have which includes sharing it with everyone else and coexisting with the wildlife as it has since the very first off-road/ATV person started using the area.  We agree that too many of us have loud exhausts and maybe go in areas that are sensitive but that is an issue that the forest department need to do more of by spending our tax dollars in the right way.  By the three E’s:  education, engineering, and enforcement.  Plus these issues are not just in the off-road/ATV community.  They also exist in the camping, hiking, bird watching, biking, hunting, fishing, and boating communities too.  People trespass, use land without paying the proper fees or permits, etc.  So just remember our taxes, fees, and voices are the only tools we have to defend our rights.  So I leave you with this, as you know once you lose something it’s hard to get it back.

Respectfully,

Richard Contreras

Tuesday, June 29, 2010

Chad - Elma, Wa

I have been going down to the sand dunes with my dad & friends since I was 13 years old & am 35 now. We generally go down 2 to 3 times a year as we live on the olympic peninsula in Wash. st. otherwise the number would be higher. During this span of 22 years I have noticed 2 trends:
1. An increase in off road vehicles using the dunes as the sport has grown a lot in the last 5 or 6 years. Evidence of this is obvious with the increase in campgrounds, sand camping spots, bike shops in the local towns etc...
2. A decrease in public land available to us for off road recreational use. I have seen sections of the dunes once open to orv's closed for a number of reasons including private property closures, environmental closures, railroad closures (Coos Bay), & noise closures.
These are trends that if continued will end up making things worse like overuse of  certain areas, orv injuries, noise issues, as we are slowly getting squeezed together tighter & tighter at the remaining locations open to orv use.
So I ask you to please don't make the problem worse by closing down more land to orv use when in fact it should be the other way around.
Thank you.
Chad Fishel

Elma Wa.
98541
Areas I ride are Coos Bay, Winchester Bay, Sand lakes, Florence.

Brad

I've been to several of these closure meeting in the past couple years. I believe in saving land but also believe that my state of Oregon needs to maintain it's recreation areas for all to enjoy.
Whether it's us in the dunes or trails ,jet boats going up the Rogue, hiking in the Cascades, hunting in eastern Oregon or plain simply camping in a state or county park we need to save our
land for ALL!
Take,take,take.........Take more rec areas and then we can still wonder why our kids and soceity are getting fatter and unhealthy be the minute, because we can sit on our lazy ass'es  and play with
electronic crap.
How about you Politician's look around and see what's wrong NO take a REAL look! If you’re my age  (48) I loved camping with my dad. Now I can't get a 11 year old kid to think about camping without
WI-FI or electricty. What do you see wrong with that? Have you Politician's thought anything about trying to give something back?

Brad Lindsay
AKUNDERBIRD@GMAIL.COM

Richard - Albany, Or

I am writing to express my deep concerns over the possible additional closure of OHV riding areas in the Oregon Dunes.  Although I am relatively new to this sport, I have met many incredible people and business owners along the Oregon coast.  We all share a passion and respect for the dunes and the unique ORV recreation they provide. 

It was out of this respect and a sense of responsibility that I have joined atv clubs that promote responsible, safe riding as well as good stewardship.  As such we have multiple dune and beach clean-ups each year and follow the rules of treading lightly.  We also are concerned about maintaining compliance with current noise regulations.

Many of our members, as well as thousands of others, plan numerous family vacations each year to the Oregon Dunes.  We spend money in the local communities.  We care about these communities and businesses.  We care about the riding areas.  We try to give back by protecting both.  We do not condone any of those who ride irresponsibly or who do not abide by the rules.

Closing more riding areas does not help the dunes or the local economy.  Instead it will concentrate riding into smaller and smaller areas, increasing congestion (and the likelihood of accidents), as well as concentrating noise.  I believe this will only lead to more more complaints, more regulations and more closures.

Sincerely,
Richard
Albany, OR

Friday, June 25, 2010

Dan - Estacada, Or





I am writing to express my concern over the possible closure of more OHV dune riding areas in Oregon.  As with many riders, this has become a family activity for us.  My children have grown up in the sport, and have developed a strong love of our beautiful Oregon Coast and the dunes.  We take 6 or more trips to the Florence area each year, staying 4 to 10 days at a time.  This means we spend quite a bit of money into the local economy there, from food, gas, entertainment, atv parts, etc. 

If more riding areas are closed, we will likely give up riding in those areas.  If dozens of riders and families like us do the same, it will have a devastating impact on those local economies.  I'm sure that those small cities rely more on OHV tourism than anything else.
 
In addition to the economical impact, there is a safety issue in closing more riding areas.  This has become an increasingly popular sport (which will only continue to add to the economy).  The more riders in smaller areas increases congestion.  And those smaller areas will feel the impact of higher OHV traffic - which I believe goes against the desire to further protect the environment.

Responsible riders care about the environment and want to do our part in preserving it.  However, closing more riding areas is not the way to do it.  The impact of such closures are too negative.  And I believe that what is hoped to be achieved by closing more riding areas will not happen because riding in currently restricted areas is not even enforced. Adding more regulations without enforcement of the current regs is meaningless. 

I believe parties on both sides can work together to find a way to protect our beautiful dunes and preserve the economy and the sport, without the negative impact of closing more areas to riders. 
Sincerely,
Dan
Estacada, OR

Cynthia - Estacada, Or




To: ODNRA OHV Designated Routes Working Group
We have been riding OHV's  at the Oregon Dunes for more than 10 years, primarily out of Florence.  This has become a family activity, and a major part of our lives.   It is a way for us to enjoy the beauty of the Oregon coast while participating in a sport that we have become passionate about.  Over the years, we have come to know, love and respect the local communities, and have met many wonderful people and have developed life long friendships.  It has also been a way for us to teach our children about safety, responsibility and respect for the environment.
 
We have found that those opposed to OHV riding on the dunes typically have a biased, one-sided view of the people involved in the sport.  They paint everyone with the same brush - as being irresponsible, and having total disregard for the environment.    The truth is that the MAJORITY of the people involved in OHV riding are very responsible, and care very much about our environment.   The majority of riders follow the rules and regulations, and try to encourage others to do the same.
  
Unfortunately, as with EVERY sport and activity, there are people that are not always responsible.  But again, that can be found in EVERY sport and activity, not just OHV riding.  Closing more of the dunes to OHV riding will NOT stop these irresponsible people.  They will keep doing what they are doing.   Enforcement of the current regulations is what is needed, not adding more closures and regulations.  We believe the enforcement agencies need to partner with those of us in the sport that ARE responsible, and work together to protect the restricted areas from damage.  Many of us belong to groups that are more than willing to become pro-active (ie: Buggyfreaks), not only in areas like beach clean-up projects, but in helping our enforcement officers target the abusers.
 
Closing more of the dunes will have an extremely negative impact on local economies.  The responsible riders will likely stop going to places where our riding is restricted.  We put a LOT of money into the local economies.   Many businesses in dune riding areas rely on OHV riders for their livelihood.  An alternative solution to closing riding areas needs to be found.  Fencing, better signage, better enforcement of current regulations and riding restrictions would be a start. 
Sincerely,
Cynthia Daniels
Estacada, Oregon

Thursday, June 24, 2010

Robert - Bend, Or

To whom it may concern,


I wanted to write a short letter telling you why i think closing MORE of OUR dunes down will affect my family.  I grew up in the Coos Bay/North Bend area and currently live in Bend, Oregon.  I grew up out on the sand dunes with my dad and mom and all of there friends when there were no atv's other than an occasional 3 wheeler.  We would take long trail rides in an old 72' chevy blazer, take trips from boxcar hill to the beach and have bbq's.  It was some of the greatest childhood memories. 


I now am married and building a family of my own, and have recently got my wife into the dunes and building 4 wheelers.  In todays world where most families rarely do a lot TOGETHER, this is something that we both love and would do everyday if we could.  I don't know a lot about all of the closures other than they affect us directly when it comes to enjoying what we love to do.  We go to all of the different dune recreation areas and love to explore where every single trail goes just because its new and fun.  Now with all the closures it is getting certain areas so small that they are not fun for us to travel to anymore.  I can't even imagine all the people who have lost there jobs, or will lose there jobs because the tourism dollars go away.  I say to you that want to shut the dunes down....You are hurting that little kid who looks up to his or her parents and wants to grow up and bring there family to the dunes, and beaches to enjoy someday.


Sincerely,


Robert and Brandi Keady

Monday, June 21, 2010

Terry

I would like to say a little something about the possible closures

Me and my family traveled to the Oregon dunes 4 times this year and 6 times last year
and stay for 3 to 4 days at a time we ride all three areas but really love winchester bay

we spend about $200 to $300 per trip not counting fuel we go out to dinners visit the casinos
buy the oysters and lots of ATV parts and have purchased 2 brand new quads from coos bay Kawasaki
over the last 3 years

so I feel that any closure of ridding are would greatly affect our enjoyment of the dunes
if noise is a problem why not open some area that is further away from homes

and enforce the noise law that is already in place my bikes are at 85 to 90 dB's
and try real hard to maintain that level

I do understand about areas that have cultural importance should be protected but if a trail is already
there why not leave it open as far as new trails I have noticed a few riders who cut new trails seems to me
a plane closed officer or ranger could be a big deterrent by handing out some hefty fines to the few idiots that are out there

Terry Ely

Chris - Bremerton, Wa

Hello,
I am writing this letter with regards to the possible closure of Sand Riding area in the Winchester Bay, Florence, Coos Bay areas.  I am one of the many that make the long drive from WA to spend my time and money in Oregon enjoying what you have to offer in fun and food.

Many of these areas seem to have already shrunk in size over the years.  This is a growing sport and just means that more vehicles are compressed into a smaller area.  Although we all strive to maintain safety it just seems to reason that more people in smaller area is recipe for trouble.  Also as the areas get smaller and people do not want to come there, the local economy suffers as well.  Many small businesses have staked all they have on this industry and to get people in your shop takes time, effort, and people in town. 

Thank you for your time in this matter.
Chris Smalley
Bremerton WA  98312

Steven - Wichita, Ks

SAVE THE RIDERS DUNES
By
Steven Ranney
Wichita, Ks

I want to start by introducing myself, my name is Steven Ranney and I am a resident of Wichita Kansas. This is far from Oregon but I felt it necessary to paint a picture of how far reaching these upcoming decisions will impact people from all over the country.

Members of my family have lived in Oregon for several years and during that time period I unfortunately have only had the chance to make a handful of trips to visit. My Sister and her Husband became duners shortly after they moved to the Oregon area and since then we have become closer in our relationship than we had ever been. The reason for this is because of the subject of duning is common between us. Even though we are 2000 miles apart we stay in touch almost on a daily basis not only to visit about Duning but just to stay in touch but duning is what started the trend.

As I have recently heard rumors of the possibility of dune closures it pains me to hear of such actions brought to the table. Duning is not just about idiot motor heads tearing through the dunes as sometimes is portrayed of us. Duning is a tight nit family and friends oriented activity. As you can see from all of the forum pages that have been created to follow this sport you would find that there are more people interested in having a good time with friends and family than ruining our environment by the use of off road vehicles.

Being from Kansas I can say the Oregon Dunes are the nicest place to Dune in the country. I have been to Glamis, Little Sahara in Waynoka, Oklahoma, I have seen St Anthony's Idaho but Oregon is the most picturesque and beautiful place to Dune period. To lose the Access to the Dunes for us Duning enthusiasts would be totally unacceptable and if approved to close these areas can have a lasting effect on Families and friends. Some people raise their children to play sports to keep them out of trouble but others bring them to the dunes for the fun activities and also to enjoy the outdoors as their parents did with them. Only difference is now we have the sand toys, as we call them, to enjoy as well.

My wife and I traveled to the Florence and Winchester Bay area in 2008 for a family Reunion and all we could talk about on the long 2000 mile drive home was “when can we go back”. Not just for the duning but for the enjoyment of such a beautifully rich environment that we could just sit in the dunes and take in the abundance of peace and tranquility of the Forests and lakes on one side and the open ocean on the other and all of this why we enjoy the sport that we love so much.
We enjoy the nights sitting by the fire visiting about the activities from the day or just catching up with friends and family about our lives and busy schedules that we need a break from. Never is the idea on our minds of how we want to purposely disturb the beautiful nature of the dunes or any wildlife that may reside in the area.


Both my wife and I love animals, and on breaks while duning we will stop to enjoy the wild life and scenery around. We duners understand the concerns of environmentalists and we agree that sections of our environment need preserved for generations to come but to close everything off to the duning off road enthusiast is the wrong thing to do.

Everyone in this great country deserves to be able to enjoy the natural beauty in whatever activity we choose. We don’t want everything to be our way we only ask for the same respect about our sport as some demand of us and their views.

So in closing I hope and I pray that my information can in some way help explain why closing the dune areas in Oregon would be a detrimental thing to do. I am positive that all parties involved on both sides can come to an agreement that is acceptable to everyone.

If there is anything that I may be able to do please contact me even though I am 2000 miles away I still want to help in any way possible.

Thanks for listening and reading my letter and I hope to see my Oregon Duning family soon.

Sincerely,

Steven Ranney
Oregon duning Enthusiast
Wichita, Kansas

Frank, Chasity - Prinville, Or

Hello,

My name is Frank Begley and I live in Central Oregon. I have Christmas Valley, about 85 miles from my house yet I would rather drive 230 to 240 miles one way to ride the Oregon Dunes. Why? For my family and I there is no better place to ride than the Oregon dunes. We have many friends and regularly make the trek to the coast with approximatly 10-15 people in our group. The memories and joy we experiance are priceless for us. The many hundreds of pictures we have from high on the tops of dunes to the surf of the beach, and the smiling faces in them, make the dunes priceless for us. I implore you to please keep the trails open as well as the hillclimbs and all of the other aspects of the dunes that make it such a pleasure for our family and friends. When my wife and I started going to the dunes about 8 years ago, we found a piece of our lives that was missing. We now make about 12 trips a year to the coast. We enjoy riding Florence, Winchester Bay, and Coos Bay from Boxcar to Spinreel. I dont think there is much of the open riding area we havent covered. We now are going on our third straight year of the Oregon Dunes being our family vacation meeting place. A place where we get together with some of our dearest friends, who travel all the way from Boise, to spend 12-14 days of fun on the sand. We attend Dunefest every year, as well as Sandfest. We have also attended the NW Raptor Rally for the last three years. this is in addition to the other times we go to the dunes including all the holiday weekends as well as any other weekend we can sneak away. The dunes are so important to us that we have even made day trips to ride Florence, leaving about four in the morning, driving to the dunes, riding for 6-7 hours then heading home after stuffing out belly's at one of the areas wonderful restrants. We are not the ony ones that feel this way about the Oregon Dunes. One of my best friends daughter just turned three. you ask her where she wants to go and her answer is "the beach!!!"  Being a "sand rat" or a "duner" is something that gets into your blood. It is incomprehenceable that there are people out there wanting to close down the little area we have to enjoy. I dont understand how people can be so selfish that they want to close down an area so many people use and enjoy. I ask that you please take our passions and the wonderful bonding and fellowship time we have while at the dunes into consideration when making your decision that effects so many families that use and enjoy the Oregon Dunes, not only for recreation, but also for bonding with their families, bonds that are not easily broken!

Sincerely,

Frank and Chasity Begley
Prineville Oregon

Saturday, June 19, 2010

Eugene Register Guard 10-C Article

Dune riders dread crackdownAs the Forest Service prepares to implement trail cuts made in 1994, off-highway-vehicle users brace for change

Appeared in print: SaturdayJun 19, 2010
FLORENCE — For 16 years, off-highway-vehicle users in the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area have enjoyed something of a free pass, at least where it concerns a spiderweb of de facto trails in certain stretches of the 60-mile-long expanse of sand between Florence and Coos Bay.
No longer. The U.S. Forest Service is finally getting around to outlining the areas of the dunes that were supposed to be off-limits in accordance with a 1994 management plan. But, because riders have grown accustomed to cruising these routes unmolested, the crackdown feels like a takeaway to some of the riders.
“We keep losing and losing,” said Scott Ryland, a member of the Northwest Sand Deuces and a Florence off-road enthusiast. “We have an exploding sport that brings a lot of tourist money to the coast — we’re talking millions of dollars annually that OHVers spend — and we’re trying to protect what little bit we’ve got left.”
Ryland sits on the 15-person group that’s tasked with making recommendations to the Forest Service about how best to implement the 1994 plan — a group that’s fully aware that areas of the dunes were supposed to be off-limits to the vehicles.
But Ryland and others acknowledge that the government’s slow implementation has everything to do with the way things are today.
The Forest Service split up the dunes into several different zones in 1994. Area “10c,” which makes up about 15 percent of the dunes’ 24,000 acres, permits OHV riding but only on designated trails.
Part of what’s tricky about trying to fix the problem is that there’s widespread agreement that some of the trails in use now are appropriate, even if they haven’t been designated. They’re natural ingress and egress points to open riding areas, or they afford critical access for emergency vehicles.
That’s why it’s hard to figure out just how much space OHV users stand to lose. At this point, Ryland said, they’re already restricted to about 40 percent of the recreational area’s total acreage. Because some trails will be reopened, and others will be converted to open riding area, a different classification, there’s no way of knowing until the end of the lengthy process how exactly things might change on the coast.
Official estimates aren’t available, but Ryland guesses OHV users will lose access to about 20 percent of the routes they now use.
“It’s a big chunk,” he said. “A lot of it is in the north dunes, up around the Florence area. There’s a moderate amount between Hauser and North Bend. Winchester Bay is probably the least impacted.”
It’s a frustration for OHV users and the businesses that rely on their tourism dollars, Ryland said, but as fellow committee member Adele Dawson puts it, “this is long in coming.”
OHV use affects sensitive riparian areas and wildlife, and the noise carries well beyond designated areas, Dawson said.
“The whole town of Florence is heavily affected by the noise,” she said. “The Forest Service has just been remiss in enforcing this. The riders don’t see it that way, but it’s the reality of the situation.”
The reason it’s taken so long to get to this issue, said Sharon Stewart, the Forest Service’s dispersed recreation supervisor, is that the 1994 plan contained some lofty objectives.
Forest service officials first worked through an alcohol ban on the dunes, then an environmental analysis to designate dispersed camping sites in the dunes, in correlation with a ban on open sand camping. Large areas of the dunes also were closed to off-highway use in that period.
“There’s only so much you can do in a given time,” Stewart said. “Sadly, this last piece was kind of the final implementation.”
The result is a difficult balancing act, said Ross Holloway, who is coordinating the OHV working group. Most of the members understand that there’ll need to be new restrictions and that all of the places that are technically off-limits right now can’t stay that way.
But the devil is in the details of the report the group needs to draft for the Forest Service by the year’s end.
“There’s a great deal of fear,” Holloway said. “The OHV community feels that most of the times these processes go on, they lose.”
Ryland said his fellow riders are working to literally clean up their image, by adopting sections of the coast where they pick up trash. He also said OHV users are lobbying the Legislature to lower the required limit on the amount of noise these vehicles are allowed to make to 96 decibels, from the current statewide limit of 99. That means OHV users are trying to make themselves quieter. But it’s also to change the Forest Service’s limit — 93 decibels — which riders want to see upped to 96, so there’s a consistent level enforced.
Ryland says he realizes no matter how much effort is put forth, the tension between riders and people who despise the activity is bound to continue.
“The environmental side is not going to be happy until we’re not there,” he said. “We’re not asking for more. We just want to hang on to what we’ve got. But the other side I don’t think is going to be happy until they’ve got it all.”
Winston Ross can be reached at 541-338-2366 or winston.ross@registerguard.com.
PUBLIC MEETING
What: A meeting of the Off Highway Vehicle Designated Routes Working Group for the Oregon Dunes National Recreation area
When: June 26, 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Public comment period at 2:30 p.m.
Where: Florence Events Center, 715 Quince St. in Florence